Ticket for not having immobilized my vehicle to the stop sign
Isabelle received a littl nice ticket that made her go through a few emotions… The police officer said to her that she didn’t stop long enough and gave her a ticket for not having immobilized her vehicle at the stop sign. I was not happy.
We exchanged several emails…
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Here’s a little tip!
Hello! I saw the web page on how to dispute a ticket.
I have just received one for not having immobilized my vehicle at the stop sign.
But I DID! When I asked the police officer why he asked me to pull over, he explained that I did not stop long enough. A moment after, he changed his explanation saying that I just slowed down
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I cannot wait to have your insights on this… I was all alone in the car and I do not have a witness. Neither does he. He was parked near a school and I think he intended to tricked many persons.
Thanks a lot for your help!!!!!
A frustrated and a little panicked woman…
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My first answer to Isabelle:
Hello Isabelle,
Give me a little more info… where did that occur (Montreal, Sherbrooke,…) Also, PLEASE, let us know when your court day is (pretty certain you can win). Do not pay your ticket immediately in any case… Start by filling paper by saying that you are not guilty…
As you will be able to note, Isabelle’s answer contains this time much more details:*****
Hello Alain,
Of course, when I win I’ll tell you!
I got the ticket in Montreal in Rosemont. In the amount of 151$ and the reported infringement is: not having immobilized its VR at a stop sign.
I am convinced I did stop!!!! When the police officer arrested me, I asked him why? He told me that I have not done my stop. I told him that I had done it. He said that I had not stopped long enough. He left with my papers.
When he came back I repeated him that I was convinced I had stopped. He said that I had only slowed down. A little hard to follow …..
I then asked him how I could dispute and he answered me very in a very cold manner that it was all written… he then cut my speech to say: “Good day Madam” and left …
I do not have any witness… I left to work and I was alone. However, this stop is at the corner of an elementary school and I am convinced to have stopped long enough because I had time to check students waiting to cross the street and I also checked if the school bus (a few meters in front of me) had its stop indicators lit because I could not have advanced, it is illegal.
Here is the story… this is his version against mine… moreover, if I understand well, if I lose in court, my ticket will be more expensive. Does it worth the shot?
I took time to check the info with the report and the only hitch presents is that he initially wrote his code of vehicle in the wrong box (the lower one, reserved for km). He then rewrote VR in the appropriate box and added 50 km over the VR… it is thus not very readable… I even believe that it is a zone of 30!! There is a school on the corner!
Thank you very much for your help, I feel a little lost in all that!
Isabelle
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My second answer to Isabelle:
Dear Isabelle…
Indeed if you lose your cause in court you could have to pay the court fees.
But don’t worry; you seem not guilty based on what you wrote me. You are moke likely to win, but only the judge can decide
I think that you all the info you need to win. I send you more info by email.
In my case, it was about a red light….I had a witness present in court… the judge said me:
“Do not call your witness…, it is not necessary.”
I had at this time said even less thing than you, but I had said the important things… but you still have a few important things to know and to find out to be more certain to win… but don’t worry. It is very simple and easy… Do not pay our ticket yet… send the part of the ticket you filled Not guilty.
We’ll talk about it soon…
February 9th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Thank you very much Alain!
I await your info. I will not send the paper just ey because I don’t know if I need to include explanations or not. Some people say I better not and others say that it looks more prepared.
I’ll think about it
Thanks a million
Isabelle
February 9th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Hello again Isabelle
When we are not guilty, we have anything to hide…
hehe
Thus YES you can fill papers out… Short and sweet.
Not too much unuseful bla bla.
You precise that you are not guilty and that you did your stop correctly.
It is very obvious that you are not guilty
But you do not talk about the police officer; do not talk about his errors.
Your goal is not to discredit the police officer… It is not what you want….
We don’t care if he is stupid.
Your point: YOU DID STOP.
That’s it.
Since when do you have your driver’s license? (How old are you, 18? 25?)
That can make a huuuuuuuuge difference for the judge.
How many demerit points did you lose?
I mean what are your last infringements?(you surely have none according to the way you write)
Alain
February 9th, 2009 at 10:15 am
To answer your questions:- I ‘m 28 years old
I have own a car for 6 years
I am not an expert in demerit points, but I have had a ticket last November for a stop…
But it was true this time!
I drive that place everyday to go to work, I was very stressed and I did not see it. I apologized to the officer and I paid ticket quickly.
I renewed my license one month ago… thus I believe that I do not lose any point…
Besides… I live Montreal so I sometimes get parking ticket because I can figure the signs! (that it is when I go to downtown … this is why I do not go there anymore… hihi!)
Otherwise, my record is clean.
I might have had a ticket several years ago for a left turn where left turn were forbidden, but I didn’t lose any demerit point that that and it was quite a long time ago…
Now you know all of my driving experience!
Isa
February 9th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Isa,
I am very confident of your case in front of a judge…
Keep your story short and stick to the facts.
Good luck and give me some news!